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MilEME09

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Something tells me that the Ukrainians would rather have something with a BFG to blast the orcs back to Mordor with.
 

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I wonder which variants we are sending? My guess would be Armoured ambulances, CPs and TCVs
I am of the opinion that the CP variants won't be going anywhere near Ukraine. Far too many bits and bobs installed that would be a bad day to lose to enemy action or capture.
 

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I am of the opinion that the CP variants won't be going anywhere near Ukraine. Far too many bits and bobs installed that would be a bad day to lose to enemy action or capture.
I haven't seen the final build plan yet but generally all of the extra bits that are sensitive are applied after manufacturing at the EFDs either by the contractor or CAF folks.
I've been involved in a few of the post manufacturing aspects in terms of building the kits and then sending them to the EFDs is that was deemed as the more secure route. Or more likely not thought of at the time of contracting and need to be added to be compatible for future systems

There may be more in the CP variants right from The manufacturer that makes it a non-starter to send them anyway like you said
 

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I haven't seen the final build plan yet but generally all of the extra bits that are sensitive are applied after manufacturing at the EFDs either by the contractor or CAF folks.
I've been involved in a few of the post manufacturing aspects in terms of building the kits and then sending them to the EFDs is that was deemed as the more secure route. Or more likely not thought of at the time of contracting and need to be added to be compatible for future systems

There may be more in the CP variants right from The manufacturer that makes it a non-starter to send them anyway like you said
Without getting too far out into the weeds, the ACSV CP builds were supposed to be as such that the time needed at EFD was greatly reduced, comparatively. No live rounds but more parts thereof than usual.
 

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I am of the opinion that the CP variants won't be going anywhere near Ukraine. Far too many bits and bobs installed that would be a bad day to lose to enemy action or capture.
Send them some CNR(E) so it gets compromised and we can buy proper Thales, Harris or Racal systems...
 

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Send them some CNR(E) so it gets compromised and we can buy proper Thales, Harris or Racal systems...
We really do not want to deliberately let Russia compromise our comms. That said Ukraine needs better get that is less vulnerable to Russian EW. The 710Gs we have scattered about that are made by an Israeli company would work wonders
 

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You don't ALWAYS get to duck outta duties by being on the hockey team ;)
Stay away from the tea and open windows if you're above the second floor, kid.
 
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