Remains found at Kamloops residential school 'not an isolated incident,' Indigenous experts and leaders warn

[daftandbarmy]

So ”free speech”, as long as that “free speech” is first approved by the Indigenous Representative to the U of L student council?

Or any other unelected, unaccountable, self-serving, virtue signaling organization

United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples | Division for Inclusive Social Development (DISD)

The United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) was adopted by the General Assembly on Thursday, 13 September 2007, by a majority of 144 states in favour, 4 votes against (Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States) and 11 abstentions (Azerbaija

social.desa.un.org

 

[lenaitch]

Some people are still under the naïve belief that any part of the educational system, particularly the post secondary part, is still a bastion of free speech, inquiry and exploration.

Using the assumption that one needs a modicum of intelligence to be accepted at a university, some of those folks might want to inform themselves of the 'hate speech' laws in Canada.

 

[Kilted]

Problem is that if you start pushing for factual details, you get shot down. Very few people deny the residential school systems or that it was a bad idea. Or that government policy on FN's was self-defeating. But there is a strong desire currently to paint FN's as these holier than thou people that lived a life that was close to utopia at the time this was first implemented. I would love to see an educational component that covers both the good and bad of the various Indigenous cultures from pre-contact, contact and, implementation of the residential school system and attempts to change and reform it and government maleficence to stymie those changes, Sadly there are many people both indigenous and non-indigenous that do not want a real factual discussion as it does not serve their agendas.

You things like slavery, cannibalism, and a considerable amount of warfare that included one nation taking land from another nation?

I'm guessing we will probably never see cancel culture cross that line to the point that we see specific first nations excluded from land acknowledgements or see Brantford renamed.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

You have erred Comrade, its off to the re-education camp for you........

 

[daftandbarmy]

You have erred Comrade, its off to the re-education camp for you........

There is a well documented methodology available, fortunately

 

[QV]

You have erred Comrade, its off to the re-education camp for you........

-5 (social credit deduction). Warning: any further credit loss will see your authorization to operate a MV reduced by 500 kms per month until your credit raises above baseline of zero (0).

 

[OldSolduer]

You have erred Comrade, its off to the re-education camp for you........

Now you’re getting it!

Btw have you developed secret police with a network of informants?
Or re education camps? You know where the counter revolutionaries are dealt with? Nudge nudge wink wink

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Interesting article looking at why the Feds could not close down the schools when they wanted to.

Canada Wanted to Close All Its Residential Schools in the 1940s. Here’s Why It Couldn’t

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[OldSolduer]

Interesting article looking at why the Feds could not close down the schools when they wanted to.

Canada Wanted to Close All Its Residential Schools in the 1940s. Here’s Why It Couldn’t

www.theepochtimes.com

Paywalled.

 

[Blackadder1916]

Interesting article looking at why the Feds could not close down the schools when they wanted to.

Canada Wanted to Close All Its Residential Schools in the 1940s. Here’s Why It Couldn’t

www.theepochtimes.com

Maybe "paywalled" is a benefit. I take a jaundiced view of anything in "The Epoch Times". Not that they are inherently dishonest (I don't know; I've never closely scrutinized their publications, since the one time I did go past the homepage, my email was inundated with affiliated spam - I learned my lesson), but I also don't take as gospel much of anything that is in the "opinion" section of any publication without verifying the credentials of the author or the sources from which any "facts" are reported. Luckily, Google did provide some alternate sites where the piece can be read. Some, like "True North" bend somewhat in the same direction as the linked publication, in fact most of the sites that repeated the piece have a right leaning bias including the original source (C2C Journal), but their media rating of "mostly factual" is primarily due to a lack of transparency in ownership.

Canada’s Government Wanted to Close Every Indian Residential School

Greg Piasetzki uncovers the complicated and perhaps surprising history of the now-reviled Indian Residential Schools.

c2cjournal.ca

I will agree that the piece is "interesting" at first read. However, I will probably have to more closely analyze the piece before I change my first glance impression that the author's conclusions may be somewhat overly simplified.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Paywalled.

interesting as I don't pay for access?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Maybe "paywalled" is a benefit. I take a jaundiced view of anything in "The Epoch Times". Not that they are inherently dishonest (I don't know; I've never closely scrutinized their publications, since the one time I did go past the homepage, my email was inundated with affiliated spam - I learned my lesson), but I also don't take as gospel much of anything that is in the "opinion" section of any publication without verifying the credentials of the author or the sources from which any "facts" are reported. Luckily, Google did provide some alternate sites where the piece can be read. Some, like "True North" bend somewhat in the same direction as the linked publication, in fact most of the sites that repeated the piece have a right leaning bias including the original source (C2C Journal), but their media rating of "mostly factual" is primarily due to a lack of transparency in ownership.

Canada’s Government Wanted to Close Every Indian Residential School

Greg Piasetzki uncovers the complicated and perhaps surprising history of the now-reviled Indian Residential Schools.

c2cjournal.ca

I will agree that the piece is "interesting" at first read. However, I will probably have to more closely analyze the piece before I change my first glance impression that the author's conclusions may be somewhat overly simplified.

I will also argue that Eugenics played a part in the thinking of policy makers between 1895 to the mid 1920's as it was very much the fad with the political correct class at the time. It's association with the Nazi's dealt it the death blow it needed.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Probably not going to be a popular post, but give the book Grave Error a read. I never heard of it until the other day. To my surprise, there are 4 copies of it in the local public library, and pardon the pun but all copies are “on reserve”.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Just in time for Easter...

Tk’emlúps signs ‘Sacred Covenant’ with Kamloops and Vancouver Roman Catholic dioceses​

Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc has signed a “Sacred Covenant” with the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Vancouver and the Diocese of Kamloops.
Kukpi7 Rosanne Casimir says the signing – which took place on Easter Sunday near the site of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School – is a significant step forward on the path of healing and reconciliation.

“You may be wondering what is a Sacred Covenant? It is a Roman Catholic version of a memorandum of understanding,” Casimir said.
“Why is it needed? Within the Sacred Covenant, the Catholic parties are committing to work with Tk’emlúps te Secwepemc to assist in answering questions related to the work during the course of our investigation.”

Casimir says the covenant – which has been in the works for a number of months – includes commitments for all parties to work together on things like memorializing children who were sent to residential schools as well as the sharing of historical records in the church’s possession to identify what happened to children who went missing.

“Our survivors journey is an individual journey, and this is one of the many steps forward. The signing of the covenant is a beautiful step forward,” Casimir said in a video shared by Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc Monday.

“The Archdiocese of Vancouver and the Diocese of Kamloops have made it clear that they are embarking on this new journey of truth, justice, and healing with us.”

Tk’emlúps signs ‘Sacred Covenant’ with Kamloops and Vancouver Roman Catholic dioceses

Tk'emlps te Secwpemc has signed a "Sacred Covenant" with the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Vancouver and the D...

www.radionl.com

 

[OldSolduer]

Just in time for Easter...

Tk’emlúps signs ‘Sacred Covenant’ with Kamloops and Vancouver Roman Catholic dioceses​

Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc has signed a “Sacred Covenant” with the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Vancouver and the Diocese of Kamloops.
Kukpi7 Rosanne Casimir says the signing – which took place on Easter Sunday near the site of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School – is a significant step forward on the path of healing and reconciliation.

“You may be wondering what is a Sacred Covenant? It is a Roman Catholic version of a memorandum of understanding,” Casimir said.
“Why is it needed? Within the Sacred Covenant, the Catholic parties are committing to work with Tk’emlúps te Secwepemc to assist in answering questions related to the work during the course of our investigation.”

Casimir says the covenant – which has been in the works for a number of months – includes commitments for all parties to work together on things like memorializing children who were sent to residential schools as well as the sharing of historical records in the church’s possession to identify what happened to children who went missing.

“Our survivors journey is an individual journey, and this is one of the many steps forward. The signing of the covenant is a beautiful step forward,” Casimir said in a video shared by Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc Monday.

“The Archdiocese of Vancouver and the Diocese of Kamloops have made it clear that they are embarking on this new journey of truth, justice, and healing with us.”

Tk’emlúps signs ‘Sacred Covenant’ with Kamloops and Vancouver Roman Catholic dioceses

Tk'emlps te Secwpemc has signed a "Sacred Covenant" with the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Vancouver and the D...

www.radionl.com

Cut to the chase:

What is it worth dollar wise?

Cynical I am

 

[Quirky]

is a significant step forward on the path of healing and reconciliation.

Ah yes another step forward towards reconciliation, on a path with no end.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Anomalous, indeed....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1795519187638460653

 

[JLB50]

Anomalous, indeed....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1795519187638460653

Interesting, especially in view of the fact that Professor Frances Widdowson, a proponent of critical thinking, got fired from her teaching post at Mount Royal University for basically saying the same thing.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Anomalous, indeed....

The most worrisome part of the cluster so far hasn't been the rush to conclusions/judgement/condemnation or the millions of dollars spent to not very much purpose; it's the calls for criminalization of doubt/dissent/denial. The press establishment in particular ought to come down on the heads of those totalitarian wannabes like a dinosaur killer.

 

[Fabius]

Anomalous, indeed....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1795519187638460653

That's one view, even if held by an actual band.

Seems the Federal government via Kimberly Murray, a federally appointed official tasked as the special interlocutor for missing children and unmarked burials is doubling down on the mass grave narrative.

History of residential school cemeteries is evidence of genocide, interlocutor says

"The histories of the cemeteries that were located at former Indian residential school sites are evidence of genocide and mass human rights violations"

No actual evidence of anything like genocide only some photos of graveyards, graves and burials which of course occurred just like they have since time immemorial across the world.