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New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

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You can almost hear Eric Idle's voice for some odd reason .
" Nice shipbuilding program you got here, Governor. Be a real shame if something happened to it.... Know what I mean ?"
Be a shame if we asked someone else to build them....in say the US or south korea
 

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So they are going to build one icebreaker? I will take bets right now it will be over a 2 billion dollars.

Will they even be using the same design?
 

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Will be interesting to see if they require them to do similar facility upgrades, but should really be customized for the expected build package. If they are building just icebreakers the previous plan for the CG ships, JSS and Polar from 2010 may no longer make as much sense.

That's still the easy bit; there is a lot of process improvements to QC, design, planning etc to be done, and that's actually much more of a long term item than some new buildings and production lines.
 

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Spending money to get things built faster. We're just driving towards two yards being out of work sooner instead of one in the longer term.
 

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Just imagine how much faster and cheaper these ships for CCG would be if purchased abroad (but now Coast Guard spending counts towards that NATO GDP target so maybe gov't likes that high cost)--and over three years just to get an agreement in place before any contracts. How many ships will be delivered before 2030? Bets?

Government of Canada moves to next stage of third shipyard selection process with Chantier Davie​

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GATINEAU, QC, June 8, 2022

GATINEAU, QC, June 8, 2022 /CNW/ - The National Shipbuilding Strategy (NSS) is a long-term, multibillion-dollar program to renew the Canadian Coast Guard and Royal Canadian Navy fleets, creating good middle-class jobs across the country while revitalizing Canada's marine industry.

Today, the Government of Canada announced that it will begin negotiations with Chantier Davie of Lévis, Quebec, towards an umbrella agreement, to become the third strategic shipbuilding partner under the NSS. Pending successful negotiations, an agreement is expected to be in place by the end of 2022.

Chantier Davie submitted a proposal as part of the Request for Proposal process for the selection of a third NSS shipyard. This included a third-party assessment of the shipyard's infrastructure; submission and evaluation of a formal proposal from the shipyard; and a due diligence process to ensure the shipyard is financially capable of performing the work and making any necessary upgrades to its infrastructure.

The assessment was similar to the process previously undertaken in 2011 to select Irving Shipbuilding Inc. and Seaspan's Vancouver Shipyards as strategic partners under the NSS.

Pending successful negotiation of an umbrella agreement, Chantier Davie will build 1 of 2 polar icebreakers and 6 program icebreakers for the Canadian Coast Guard. Contracts for each project will be negotiated with the shipyard only after the signature of an umbrella agreement [emphasis added].

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Just imagine how much faster and cheaper these ships for CCG would be if purchased abroad (but now Coast Guard spending counts towards that NATO GDP target so maybe gov't likes that high cost)--and over three years just to get an agreement in place before any contracts. How many ships will be delivered before 2030? Bets?
Three from Seaspan in Vancouver. 2xJSS and the OOSV for sure. After that no idea.
 

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Just imagine how much faster and cheaper these ships for CCG would be if purchased abroad (but now Coast Guard spending counts towards that NATO GDP target so maybe gov't likes that high cost)--and over three years just to get an agreement in place before any contracts. How many ships will be delivered before 2030? Bets?









How do unarmed ships contribute to defense spending?
 

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Just imagine how much faster and cheaper these ships for CCG would be if purchased abroad (but now Coast Guard spending counts towards that NATO GDP target so maybe gov't likes that high cost)--and over three years just to get an agreement in place before any contracts. How many ships will be delivered before 2030? Bets?








I hear we can get good prices from the Chinese
 

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How do unarmed ships contribute to defense spending?
How do SAR aircraft, or trucks, or C-17's or tugboats for dockyard or the Joint Support ship? If it comes under the DND budget it's defense spending. Unarmed vessels have important roles to play in defense work.
 

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How do SAR aircraft, or trucks, or C-17's or tugboats for dockyard or the Joint Support ship? If it comes under the DND budget it's defense spending. Unarmed vessels have important roles to play in defense work.
All those contribute to the mission of combat arms. Unarmed coast guard vessels not so much. If our coast guard was armed like most other countries then sure. How will our coast guard help if China attacks...well anywhere? Politely ask them to leave?
 

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All those contribute to the mission of combat arms. Unarmed coast guard vessels not so much. If our coast guard was armed like most other countries then sure. How will our coast guard help if China attacks...well anywhere? Politely ask them to leave?
Oh I get your question. Yah Coast guard are not constabulary.
 

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Oh I get your question. Yah Coast guard are not constabulary.
If the DND uses coast guard spending in the NATO spending calculation then we are in worse shape then I thought. They should at least strap a .50 cal to the deck and pretend they are armed if they want NATO credit for coast guard dollars.
 

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If the DND uses coast guard spending in the NATO spending calculation then we are in worse shape then I thought. They should at least strap a .50 cal to the deck and pretend they are armed if they want NATO credit for coast guard dollars.
SAR, environmental protection, fisheries. Many ways to protect people, their livelihoods and their communities without having a 25mm canon.
 
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