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how about the word "being", like human being. Although there will be a squabble over whoever gets to become the "supreme being".
Oldgateboatdriver said:BTW, I think I may have sailed on submarines before you were born.
And, my apologies to all the people I may have offended by using seaman. It got me thinking, however: when are the NDA and QR&O's going to be corrected and updated? I mean, we obviously now have Ordinary Seaperson, Able Seaperson, Leading Seaperson and Master Seaperson. The ranks table has to be modified. ;D
whiskey601 said:All Canadian frigates have ELINT capability, thats public record. A submarine has the stealth that a frigate does not. Not going to say more than that.
MTShaw said:It's called the silent service for a reason. There is reason to keep our naval's spies from being compromised. It has absolutely nothing to do with shame.
MTShaw said:It's my understanding that among the tasks of a Canadian SSK is Sigint. Sigint is intelligence: as in Signal Intelligence. If I were order naval personnel to do Sigint, I would not have a frigate perform that task.
Dolphin_Hunter said:SIGINT? I doubt it. They don’t even have a NESOP onboard. At least they didn’t when I was on boats. Your average radar detector in your car is probably more complicated than the ESM suite on the Victoria class..
As for the silent service bit, I had always assumed that it was because we snuck around under the waves undetected, you know, silently...
Dolphin_Hunter said:SIGINT? I doubt it. They don’t even have a NESOP onboard.
Humphrey Bogart said:therefore armoured recce = submarines!
Oldgateboatdriver said:Sure! That will be so only when the TAPV's can take out an enemy tank regiment by itself and live to see the end of the day.
A submarine can take out the enemy's carrier, possibly a couple of the escorts and still have a better than even chance of escaping from its escort's attempt at revenge. ;D
jollyjacktar said:The TAPV does have a " boat shaped hull", maybe they can have an associate membership?
Humphrey Bogart said:Why use military logic when you can use Trump logic?
"We are going to build a wall with Mexico! China's got a wall, they don't have a Mexican Problem!"
See! Premise, Premise, Conclusion!
Honorary Captain Status! Splendid!
Oldgateboatdriver said:First of all DH, Sigint is usually done by communications people, not sensor op. Second, there are all sorts of levels and involvement with Sigint. Nobody is suggesting that either a ship or a submarine can actually collect, compile, code break, analyze and develop the intelligence information all by themselves.