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Active Shooter / Hostile Event ( ASHE ) prevention / response

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Just to add a bit more "seasoning" to the Uvalde discussion



Bailouts occur when vehicles are pulled over and people exit the vehicle and leg it. All the schools in the area are locked down and emergency response teams are dispatched to each of them.

It still doesn't explain the hesitation, especially after 400 bodies were on scene.

Maybe until the first “pop”
 

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< snip >, then to wade into sticky social issues where you sure to be called racist.

Sociological problems, education, DNA? Who knows? 🤷‍♂️

I read that in Los Angeles in the 1960's, their 3,400 police officers arrested 100,000 more criminals than their 10,000 officers were by 1996.
"A distressed Mayor Richard Riordan said it was vexing to learn that LAPD is now making 100,000 fewer arrests, issuing over 200,000 fewer citations, and conducting over 200,000 fewer field interviews per year."

I realize those statistics are dated, but I wonder if that is a trend?
 

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If guns made you safer, the USA would be the safest nation in the world.

"Guns make you safer" is not a sufficient condition, and probably not a necessary one. A lot factors are involved (pro and con) in getting to "safest nation in the world". The conclusion doesn't necessarily follow the premise.
 

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Sociological problems, education, DNA? Who knows? 🤷‍♂️

I read that in Los Angeles in the 1960's, their 3,400 police officers arrested 100,000 more criminals than their 10,000 officers were by 1996.
"A distressed Mayor Richard Riordan said it was vexing to learn that LAPD is now making 100,000 fewer arrests, issuing over 200,000 fewer citations, and conducting over 200,000 fewer field interviews per year."

I realize those statistics are dated, but I wonder if that is a trend?
FIDO: Fuck It, Drive On.

I did 48hrs in LA several years ago with LAPD Metro, more gunfights / hr than any other place I’ve been to in the world.

Overcrowded jails, and a society that values immediate wealth over life/law. A lot of criminal v criminal shooting deaths are not even reported.


That said, I love America and being an American, and cherish it a lot more that I cherished being a Canadian.
 

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"Guns make you safer" is not a sufficient condition, and probably not a necessary one. A lot factors are involved (pro and con) in getting to "safest nation in the world". The conclusion doesn't necessarily follow the premise.
Plus who defines Safe…
 

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FIDO: Fuck It, Drive On.

I did 48hrs in LA several years ago with LAPD Metro, more gunfights / hr than any other place I’ve been to in the world.

Overcrowded jails, and a society that values immediate wealth over life/law. A lot of criminal v criminal shooting deaths are not even reported.

The writer, a retired LAPD Lt. was reminicing about the "Golden Age" of the LAPD. Presumably, pre Rodny King.

Starting in 1973, affirmative action & consent decrees changed LAPD culture from aggressively pursuing criminals to laying back in police cars, taking careful and lengthy reports, while gangs ran wild in the streets and portions of L.A. were terrorized by thugs.

When I was in the field in the 1960s, our 3,400 policemen (our Civil Service rank) arrested 100,000 more criminals than do today's 10,000 affirmative action wonders. (Attorney GARY INGEMUNSON in "Warning Bells," Thin Blue Line, July 2005, p. 13—Also L.A. Times of 13 March 1996, pp. B-1 & 3): A “distressed Mayor Richard Riordan…said it was vexing to learn that LAPD is now making 100,000 fewer arrests, issuing over 200,000 fewer citations, and conducting over 20,000 fewer field interviews per year.”

Give no slack and take no shit from anyone. Confront and command. Control the streets at all times. Always be aggressive. Stop crimes before they happen. Seek them out. Shake them down. Make that arrest.

That said, I love America and being an American, and cherish it a lot more that I cherished being a Canadian.

My wife is a U.S. citizen. Arizona is my favorite state.
 

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Damn.... sad to see that, but a good idea nonetheless IMHO

AR-15 rifles installed in all public schools in NC county​




A North Carolina sheriff installed AR-15 rifles in all county public schools in order to better prepare deputies in the event of a mass shooting.

Madison County Sheriff Buddy Harwell first announced the new plan in a June Facebook video in the wake of the Uvalde, Texas, Robb Elementary school shooting, during which 19 children and two teachers were killed. Harwell said on Friday that a safe, AR-15 rifle, and other security tools had been installed in the county’s six public schools, the

“We were able to put an AR-15 rifle and safe in all of our schools in the county,” Harwood said. “We’ve also got breaching tools to go into those safes. We’ve got extra magazines with ammo in those safes.”

“I hate that we’ve come to a place in our nation where I’ve got to put a safe in our schools, and lock that safe up for my deputies to be able to acquire an AR-15. But, we can shut it off and say it won’t happen in Madison County, but we never know,” Harwood said. “I want the parents of Madison County to know we’re going to take every measure necessary to ensure our kids are safe in this school system. If my parents, as a whole, want me to stand at that door with that AR strapped around that officer’s neck, then I’m going to do whatever my parents want as a whole to keep our kids safe.”

 
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